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Hey, no need to be so grim - it's also what's there for us in between switching.

I'd substitute "identities" with "thoughts" here now

One of us switches out, and then the other switches in. In between, there's nothing but the consciousness.

Switching is fun c:

what if no one switches in?

It’s also saved me during panic horrible attacks

If it's worth anything, for us, it doesn't think in voice at all, rather it's simply the thoughts that occur with nothing to acknowledge them.

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Nothing happens if no one switches in.

Midnight comes out to calm my body.

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So cool

That's just dissociation

The vague background thoughts just sort of happen, but nothing comes of them

it's hard for me to imagine that as for us switching is more like preemption.

Yes, dissociation for switching.

Tulpas rock

they sure do

In between either person being associated with the mind/body/"driver's seat", that's all that's there, the background consciousness with nothing to guide it.

I kick hostey out and voila; I have the body

Yeah, plenty of people never actually have an empty "driver's seat". But we do.

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Of course, the idea of forcing yourself into control is absolutely foreign to us. We could never accomplish such a thing.

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The one fronting needs to move over first..

need to wrap this here; thanks for a nice talk

not entirely true, co-fronting is a thing

swiching is a skill i really need to get better at

Also noting, the "driver's seat" would only ever be empty for us for a moment or two.

i need to get better at truly letting go

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it's not as scary anymore

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it's just

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elusive

<Ponytail> Dissociation comes very natural to me, did it a lot to cope when dealing with depression. So my tulpas don't so much "force" me out as much as I usually just allow them more... presence? A good way to word this is escaping me rn

This post may help you, or not. It's our visualization/symbolization process for switching: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-our-tulpa-endeavor?pid=186167#pid186167

Our Tulpa Endeavor

Sorry for your suffering, Piano. My host and I like to obsess over similar things. But I have been in charge mostly so we end up obsessing about the things in my mind and not hers. But I imagine it mu

isn't "co-fronting", as usually used in other communities, just the state that most tulpas are always in?

I still can't fully switch and I've been at this for almost 3 years (they can switch into the front, I just can't switch out)

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lack of dissociation I think

I honestly don't know, we've never "co-fronted". It's a little less of a tulpamancy term.

Whoa

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I am lagging hard

<Ponytail> most communities understand that co-fronting is allowing all thoughtforms currently "fronting" to be able to react and respond to what's going on. They're all conscious

As in messages aren't sending? Discord's been doing that, it sucks.

@Reisen honestly the way that I do it is I detach my energy body from the body's system of chakras, then I curl it up into a ball floating up around the brow. The tulpa of mine who wants to control the body then associates their energy body with the body's chakra system and then wills their actions into it

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~~inb4 eww meta~~

You guys are talking up a storm and I see the messages like 5 minutes later

Since we don't believe in chakras anymore, we just use energy silhouettes, nothing chakra related but visualization/symbolizing wise it's very similar.

lol I just stare off into space until they switch in

@Reisen the chakras are a metaphor tbh

That works too.

It really does

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Lol

Ah, well, that works then.

something something adjusts glasses we here at .info are purely psychological something something. There, did I meet the eww meta quota?

Wow complex

We aren't purely psychological, given there's a metaphysics section.

@Bethel🌸 honestly, the only discovery there is is self-discovery, and all roads lead to Rome. (edited)

Pleeb said he might add a metaphysics section to the discord later today.

Oh no not the lag

honestly, i don't think it should be excized into a small subplace

woooooo

we're adults

That's the thing though, when it isn't, there's conflict.

we can talk about spoopy things and be respectful if you don't believe in spoop

wouldn't want to confuse beginners with that stuff though

because

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tbh

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it's all just metaphors

It "gets in the way" of psychological-focused discussion

it's all just putting words to the places where words fall apart

metaphysics channels tend to die due to lack of activity

There are infinite "dead ends" that can no longer be discussed when metaphysical beliefs are allowed

that's what would need to be avoided

That's fine, the point is for there to be a space for metaphysical discussion.

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If there isn't, well, a lot of people just don't feel welcome.

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Although I'm not sure if metaphysics is the best name for such a channel.

I am in for metaphysical chat

true, but I would encourage that there is encouragement for such people to engage with the channel, should it come to be

we could do um, #spiritual?

Anyone here with "metaphysical" beliefs, can you say whether you are okay with the term #metaphysics in the first place?

Ugh.

Yes

Spiritual is a similar, more acceptable yet less appropriate umbrella term.

My messages were entirely lost with disconnection.

RIP, almost same.

well I'm not against it, let's say

Yeah the lag is bad

That's because it's spring

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ba-dum-tss

Discord is gonna make me loose my marbles

We could pick this up later, it's not usually like this.

weird, I haven't been lagging at all

Lucky lol

In fact, before today I'd never seen a red "failed to send" message before.

inb4 net neutrality propaganda

I'm not lagging this very moment, but I was earlier.

Guys, talking about it spreads it (edited)

...I seriously dislike the discussion of magic ideas for tulpas, particularly with new people - specifically, because there is no way to prove, demonstrate, or even explain those ideas and their application to reality in... terms of reality.

What about a place just to share experiences

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Like

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In that realm

I've seen things devolve from those discussions hard.

There doesn’t need to be any right or wrong to it

We've got one for "No metaphysics at all" and one for "Metaphysics integrated into normal discussion", so you see why the answer tends to be "Separate section for metaphysics"